April 29, 2024

The mountain of shit theory

Uriel Fanelli's blog in English

Fediverse

Byoblu.

Byoblu.

I see that there is a lot of talk around the fact that Byoblu has been closed by Youtube, which has demonetized and closed the channel. I imagine that for Messora's wallet this is worrying, but I think that in the end it also went well for him. I'll explain.

The so-called "Fake News" can be of two types:

  • those that have a criminal profile.
  • those that do not have a criminal profile.

The latter are fake news like "the earth is flat" or "the world is controlled by aliens", or whatever. Since there are no injured parties, then no judge will be able to indict you for this.

Then there are the ones I wanted to talk about: fake news with a criminal profile.

If I say that 5G is guilty of the covid pandemic, and that this technology is known to do this, I am blaming the phone companies that implement it (Telecom Italia, Vodafone, O2, SwissCom, in short, all) and device manufacturers. (Ericsson, Huawei, Nokia, etc) of a very serious crime.

This is the crime of slander: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calunnia

If I say that Pfizer has falsified data and is selling an ineffective, or harmful vaccine, I am accusing a company of several crimes: falsifying data is a crime, producing and marketing harmful drugs without informing the authorities. a crime, etc. So I would be accusing them of huge crimes, and it would still be slander https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calunnia

If I accuse Bill GAtes of being at the head of a conspiracy that intends to overthrow the Constitution and the democratic order, I am accusing him of a very big crime, the attack on the state constitution: https://it.wikipedia.org/ wiki / Attack_of_the_Constitution_of_State #: ~: text = «Art., not less than five years» .

I could go on and on and explain that, in the end, a lot of fake news have a "very clear criminal profile", and that they would allow anyone to sue and then ask for damages.

From this point of view, a lot of "counter-information" is enjoying a tolerance that in my opinion is inexplicable, or if we prefer it is enjoying an impunity that is scandalous.

Of course, the fact that there are judges who support these nonsense is helpful: when it comes to the prime minister that a judge calls vaccines "sewage", we fear that judge will hardly convict a person for accusing Pfizer. to sell toxic vaccines.

Ultimately, the criminal profile of fake news exists and is often evident : the problem is that even if you want to sue / sue, you have to ask yourself what kind of judge you will meet. If you meet the judge who says "sewage" of vaccines, clearly there is a risk of losing the case, and then the Byoblu of the situation will write "that the judiciary has agreed with him about vaccines".

In practice, crimes of slander and more are committed on every "fake news" site all the time, but a criminal magistracy of senescent dinosaurs divorced from reality who sit in the chair of "judge".

On the other hand, one wonders how during a pandemic a guy can write that vaccinees are being poisoned or infected with "nanotechnology" to "become zombies", and not at least be accused of procuring alarm:https: // it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procurato_allarme

During a pandemic, this shouldn't go unnoticed. Yet it happens, and I have not yet seen a single investigation into this kind of "information", or a complaint for slander by people and companies that are accused of the most heinous crimes.

It is important to talk about the criminal profile, because at the end of the day all the discussions I see around concern the civil profile: "google is a private individual and can do whatever it wants": but beware, this is not true. It is not that if Auschwitz had been a SpA then inside "they could do what they wanted": there are laws that are hierarchically superior to private law. I can't commit crimes just because there's a private contract that says so.

In terms of the Constitution, censorship is not allowed in Italy, and not even in Germany. The Constitution is hierarchically superior to private law, so no, Google CANNOT do what it wants just because it is private.

But if we start by saying that the Constitution is valid, then all the other laws are valid: therefore the penal code is also valid. And in this case, fake news almost always have a criminal profile, which overrides the civil one: you cannot commit crimes just because the "terms & conditions", which are a private contract, allow it. (assuming they are, because here there is no unanimous consensus in Germany, I don't know in Italy).

Definitely,

It also went well in Byoblu. If this were done by law, he could face criminal trials.

So no, I would say that Messora can also stop whining. After all, he made a lot of money by writing bullshit on a channel, which is not a crime per se, but several of those bullshit may have a criminal profile.

For example, it is not at all obvious that it is possible to accuse someone of poisoning vaccines, killing people of cancer, causing autism, without having committed a crime. And when someone is accused of falsifying the death toll to increase it,

Byoblu.
Here they are accusing public offices of a very serious crime.

In this video,

Byoblu.
https://www.byoblu.com/2021/03/24/cambiare-il-mondo-con-un-virus-fulvio-grimaldi/

the government is accused of having caused both Islamic terrorism (which is a crime) and of having caused "the health emergency", or the epidemic. Again, this is slander.

And like those many others.

So I repeat: calm down Messora, because it went well for him too.

But there is one thing, the most important, that I want to say. To "close" Byoblu was the "ggent" to whom he appeals.

When Byoblu tried to land in the fediverse, almost all the pods managed by Italians de-federated it, at the request of users. In this case it is not an authority: it is what they call "laggente".

And even when it comes to google, it is not that google closes random channels: it closes channels that are reported. And to report them is, once again, "laggente".

Will Messora ever be so honest as to admit that to make him close the channel he is "laggente" and to isolate his pod on the fediverse he is still "laggente"?

Because at least in criminal trials, dear Messora, you have a lawyer. When the judge is "laggente", well….

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